Comments on: Jonathan Schmid Burgk releases VisualVox polyphonic v0.9

By: ronnie

ronnie — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 10:27:59 +0000

What a shame it’s not working well… Thanks for sharing your experience Ben.

By: Ben

Ben — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 10:09:59 +0000

Bottom line is, this software is weak at best. I had an uncompressed cello/viola duo I was trying to separate – just sounds like he EQs (read: tries to) one of the voices out.

Its not usable as a once voice pitch manipulator let alone a polyphonic melodyne DNA competitor.

Take it from someone who wasted money on this product. A pretty shabby release, even for a beta. (I’ve also never ever heard of people having to pay to test a beta… thats bullcrap)

By: ronnie

ronnie — Fri, 06 Feb 2009 22:56:30 +0000

@Jason: sorry about all this trolling. I don’t know what’s up with these people.

Anyone actually got this VisualVox polyphonic running? That’s what I’d like to know.

By: Jason A. McCall

Jason A. McCall — Fri, 06 Feb 2009 21:07:55 +0000

@ PLEASE_STOP

Huh. I wish you’d been around two weeks ago or so, to let me know about this before I spent all that time writing the comment…

Well, good job there, I guess. Case solved. You’ve proven yourself to be quite a capable sleuth. And I would have gotten away with it too, if it hadn’t been for those kids and that pesky dog. And just never you mind, just never you mind! that our style, diction, sentence structure, rhythm and usage of punctuation show notable differences–differences which would be difficult (though I will concede not impossible) to fake under normal circumstances.

Ha, whatever. You believe what you like to believe and if you don’t agree with my opinions or the style with which I choose to express those opinions, or anyone else’s for that matter, you’re more than welcome to simply ignore them and move on. But thank you for the attention, I appreciate it.

By: Please_Stop

Please_Stop — Fri, 06 Feb 2009 19:28:17 +0000

Jason and beatoffman are the same troll posting under both nyms, having an argument with himself because he’s starved for attention.

By: ronnie

ronnie — Thu, 05 Feb 2009 21:06:24 +0000

Thanks for the heads up Robb, I hope Jonathan will be able to fix that.
Were you able to test it in any other host?

By: robb

robb — Thu, 05 Feb 2009 19:09:52 +0000

not sure what you guys are going on about but I can report that this plug seems to not work at all in Live 7 on OS X. So I would avoid if that is your config.

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By: Jason A. McCall

Jason A. McCall — Fri, 23 Jan 2009 11:24:59 +0000

Option A – Harsh Criticsm:
Well dear “Beatoffman,” do please provide us with some contact information for your parents, that we might inundate them, in the harshest possible terms, with the negative criticism they sorely deserve for providing you with, literally, no sense of diplomacy or decency toward other people. One can only applaud with laughable levels of sarcasm the magnificent failure of your upbringing. I do hope you are an only child, as it would be beyond our conception of immorality for these people, who are apparently so incapable of producing progeny with the ability to conduct themselves in a civil manner in web blog comment boxes, to reproduce more. I would spit in each their faces for failing humanity so thoroughly in their most undesirable procreation. In fact, it is offensive–no, I dare say even vulgar–to think that whole lineages and family lines were squandered to provide you with life–you who are such an arrogant and seemingly unredeemable creature; you, who demonstrates most profoundly the worst colors of cowardice with all your insiginificant sound and fury that you shout from behind your lazy monikers; you, who walks upon the intellectual crutch of non-sequitors; you, who speaks so boldly of dispensing harsh criticisms but who probably has not the courage or stomach to receive it; you, who dons the veil of asbercism and virulence, who pretends of superiority to misdirect from your inferiorities: go back, I say, go back into the foul womb from whence thou camest; go back, and undo yourself into a soup of semen and vaginal waste, that your mother might have one more chance to do the better thing, and leak you out into a toilet to create something far more useful and productive from the reclamation.

Option B – Constructive Criticism:
Hey Beatoffman, you seem really passionate about the relationship you feel developers should have with the end users of their products, and that’s great–in a world where true personal contact is becoming less and less present, it is important to maintain avenues of communication between the people who make a product and the people who use that product. It does seems though that a lot of your criticism is less concerned with actually improving the product, experience or methods involvded in creation, and more concerned with simply acting belligerent and hostile. Harshness in criticism works much like harshness in music–at very first it can be a dramatic effect–but if it’s constant, it quickly wears out, gets boring, and the music gets shut off. Perhaps once or twice you can get away with playing the angry jerk, but eventually the people you supposedly aim to “help” by being harsh will get tired of the act and simply ignore you. I think the trouble is that, for one, you confuse harshness with honesty and sincerity–if you are honest and sincere in your concerns about the faults you find with someone’s product, and present those concerns in a firm but respectful manner, odds are the person will respect your opinion more than if you simply called them names; secondly, it seems that you don’t really trust people to listen to and respond to constructive criticism anyway–which only further intensifies the adversarial relationship you seem to desire with them. Third, you also tend to try to confuse issues by throwing non-sequitors (fascism/Uncle Tom?) around in your arguments, probably to avoid facing that your arguments themselves are not very strong. Again, it only serves to make people pay less attention to what you have to say, as it makes you appear more intent on being adversarial than constructive. You might consider enrolling in a public speaking/debate class at your local community college to help you express your ideas in a more relevant and productive manner. Because it’s wonderful you’re so enthusiatic–but you a shame your enthusiasm is spent so negatively.

(I vote for Option B)

By: Beatman

Beatman — Fri, 23 Jan 2009 09:27:09 +0000

@B.O.M… For starters, I give feedback to a number of these independent developers as well as commercial ones. I often get quick responses and solutions because: (1) I contact them directly. (2) Because I don’t use needless anger towards them especially when it’s freeware.

A few developers have actually sent me exclusive unreleased plugins as well as incorporated some of my ideas into their plugs. I have found a lot of these guys to be pretty cool and down to earth when you give them common courtesy.

I had an issue with the driver installation of a Presonus audio device because it did things I felt it shouldn’t be doing without permission!

I contacted Presonus about my concerns and got a speedy response. They released new drivers within 3 weeks that eliminated the previous bogus installation. I’m now satisfied! I don’t stand for bs from companies when they “F” me over by not addressing issues with their product. But I only have that sort of anger when it’s warranted. It’s not my FIRST choice!

Most companies release buggy software. Cakewalk for example, always include an rtf file
with every release of Sonar that addresses “KNOWN ISSUES” with their program. This doesn’t stop them from charging $500 for it.

As far as the uncle tom comment… is DRUMBY, your uncle?

Usually when a lame is this angry and aggressive for no obvious reason, its because he doesn’t have a woman and have pent-up frustrations from not getting any azz! Judging by his level of ass-hole-ism… I’d say this guy hasn’t seen any pussy since coming out of his mama’s!