VST Platinum – 1,700 plug-ins for just $39?

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Recently I came across a website called VST Platinum (no I’m not going to link to it), where former Sony BMG sound engineer Greg Hoffman is trying to sell you a collection of Over 1700 Hi Quality VST Plugins, And 4000 Cutting-Edge Sound Effects.

VST Platinum

After reading a few paragraphs on this website, scrolling down to the testimonials and checking some of the screenshots of the VST plug-ins I concluded that this $1,838.00 value package that’s being sold for $39 is a complete scam.

Obviously, they’re selling stuff that’s available for free online (screenshots on the website include freeware plug-ins by GTG Synths and Odo Synths).

I noticed some things on the VST Platinum website seemed a bit “off”.

  • Some of the testimonial images have title tags that show “Karaoke Star DVD Testimonial”.
  • It keeps saying there’s a 100% money back guarantuee and that the offer may expire 3 days from now, but every day you check the site you’ll notice that expiration date is 3 days from the current date.
  • Somewhere in the bottom it says: You’ll get the 2 CD set in your mailbox within 12 days and be on your way to obtaining the most comprehensive lionel trains repair, restoration, parts list and catalog guide. Guaranteed..

Their contact page links to some kind of online support help desk, where I submitted a ticket with a request for a list of the plug-ins. No answer yet…

Okay, so if you are still doubting, don’t be fooled.

I checked the Karaoke SuperStar DVD website, which is basically the same as the VST Platinum one, except Greg Hoffman is now Rachel Patterson. Just like Frank Keenan’s Lionel Trains site, which funnily enough talks about VST plug-ins in some of the text.

I googled around a bit to find an address that seems to house a lot of these junk websites: 2021 Midwest Road (Suite 200 and possibly others) Oak Brook IL 60523.

I guess this would be some kind of call center since it seems to house tons of companies. You can see the building on Google Maps.

Now all of this could very well be legit in some kind of twisted way, but the same address also comes up with some scam alerts, so I figured I should report it here anyway.

I would hope you would never fall for the offers of these type of sketchy looking sites, but for those who do get tempted by the idea of getting thousands of dollars worth of plug-ins for just $39… it’s too good to be true. Don’t fall for it!

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Magniz
Magniz

Thanks for the alert. As you said this all might be legit and in best case simply a collection of free stuff bundled onto one DVD. Speaking from experience you should all be alerted if you come across a website where you have to scroll down forever to reach the footer. I’ve seen many of these site, all in the same style and selling thousands-of-something. You actually get a product delivered but mostly it’s just free stuff collected from various sources. Just recently I came across another site looking identical and selling 1000 kick drums as a download for 10… Read more »

Erick McNerney
Erick McNerney

This reminds me of Crysonic, but Crysonic is actually legitimate (in a shady sort of way) I bought from crysonic and actually got the products and serials (though it took him forever to send the serials). This (VST Platinum) is much worse. If it’s a “finder’s” fee for mostly free plugins, why say the total value is “1800 USD”? Is that the worth of the “not-for-free” cracked/warez plugins? Even after all of these years this guy is still up (at least the site is still running I mean). How? Maybe because the biggest victim is the little guy, providing the… Read more »

Jon
Jon

I thought this was a total scam. I started seeing it a few weeks ago, the copy is so vague about what you actually get, so I was pretty skeptical.

Ronny can you put HUGE letters saying this is a scam.

tb
tb

it’s just a marketing site, with a script that changes so it’s always 3 days hence. not a big deal in the marketing world. and the address is probably just a fulfillment house that ships his products and has other clients they ship for. a lot of these sites are just clones of one another with different text. and they give each other testimonials. not a big deal. not a scam. if you’re not selling informational products online, you may not understand how it all works. and 40 bucks is not that much money to have a lot of freebies… Read more »

lordkook
lordkook

ugh. i’m surprised someone would go to the trouble of doing this whole thing on an actual, stand-alone website. these kind of “OMG AMAZ1NG VST COLLECTION!11!” cds are all over Ebay, and it’s vexing enough to see people getting away with it there.

tb
tb

Ronnie, What’s not to get? I work for myself from home. It’s pretty awesome. Thanks for the plug. Anyway it’s all speculation about what’s on the VST Disc unless someone actually ORDERS it. Otherwise a review of it is just pointless. It’s like saying “I heard from someone that I know that the new record by so and so is really bad so here’s my review saying it’s really bad…although I have not actually heard it myself. I’m just guessing” That is what I don’t get. Again, you’re just assuming what’s on there and if he has distribution rights. If… Read more »

digital lofi
digital lofi

Yeah, these “make a million bucks on the internet” scams are all over the US. They usually prey on people who are not to savvy with the interwebs. So, TM, I only have to glance at your site to know you’re a snake oil salesman. And this is the same kind of scheme or in that same mindset. One step above Nigerian email scams really. People trying to make money without actually doing anything, leeching on google and the wealth of free information on the internet. I don’t have to order this disk to see that these charlatans don’t have… Read more »

Aaron
Aaron

Yeah looks dodgy,cashing in on others hard work. Hopefully most audio heads are saavy enough to steer clear of this marketing crap.

The fact that the guy greg doesn’t list whats on the dvd is more than enough reason to suspect it, and obviously he doesn’t want 100’s of pi**ed-off freeware developers contacting him.

tb
tb

Diagital Lofi– Sure man. Whatever you say. I can tell you know everything already so what can I say? Enjoy your 20s while they last. It’s the period in life when you know everything. At 30 you’ll realize you know nothing. Or at least nothing worthwhile. And I never said make a million bucks. Where does it say that? $100K isn’t that much. But thanks for twisting my words into what isn’t there. I actually do help people make money and get paid for it. And it feels great. What do you contribute? Oh and thanks again for the plug.… Read more »

digital lofi
digital lofi

Ha ha! First, I’m in my 40s. So, yeah, fail. I’m more jaded than you can possibly imagine. I’ve also worked on the web for a long, long time (well, in internet years). So, while I don’t know everything, and never claimed to, I’ve seen a lot. And if you’d bothered to, you know, read my site you’d see that it’s been retired, which would explain the wordpress errors. (Tho’ thanks for the heads up on those.) I fired puffermedia in the meantime. ;-) Those jokers never do anything right. Hits and visits are a fool’s errand, my friend, if… Read more »

Mik Sybrandt
Mik Sybrandt

Bewarned, you are paying for free plugins that you could have just downloaded yourself. Of course it`s nice to have all these free plugins on one dvd. But this guy never got a permission to distribute my plugins this way.
Anyway, it`s up to you if you want to pay for freeware plugins.

Mik,GTG Synths.

louie
louie

Mik,
Actually, I came across the comments & feel
they would typically be justified. However, in addition to many freeware VST’s, there are many – many useful plug-ins from Waves,
Korg, Cubase, N.I. and they are full versions.

I don’t believe at all this was scamish!

louie

Ssds
Ssds

Are you brain dead? The inclusion of Waves, Korg, Cubase, and N.I is even more reason to believe that this is a scam.

Nice try.

Mik Sybrandt
Mik Sybrandt

Sure.
All I am saying is this guy never got a permission from me to put my plugins on his cd. And I had to mail him several times, and finally threaten him with legal actions before he removed my material.
I am sure his cd is usefull for many people. But he just needs to learn a little about distribution rules.

Cheers.

Mik

Mik Sybrandt
Mik Sybrandt

Well, there you go. I am not surprised ;-)

Aaron
Aaron

Most unfortunate is the fact that a lot of folk are buying the dvd, the only reason I say this is cause that website has been advertising the dvd on adwords and still is to this day.

They’re operating a buisness on very shakey foundations, and when things get ugly they’ll be hit hard.

DJ D
DJ D

Fucking scumbag, I hope he gets burned, BAD. Whatever about people downloading cracked versions of stuff, but for someone to try and SELL cracked software. The scumbag should be locked up.

js
js

so we buy it or not is a crime or bullshit fake and i never get the thing tall me about it

because you spend all the day downloading and is alote of time so i see this i said ocourse i buy it ofcourse lo compro

Bobskeyboardz
Bobskeyboardz

Well Its either Freeware or Warez both are wrong because it says “Do not include this software with any 3rd party package” and that’s what some people are doing, being 3rd party sellers.

Andy
Andy

This is a confirmed scam, and we’re working to get him in jail. The customer testimonials are faked (consumer fraud) as well as the magazine endorsements he lists, meaning he is illegally using their logos without permission. I actually got through to him using some wizardry and he claims they are located malaysia and the florida address is just to forward it there, but the email traced back to Miami. He signed his name is “Modm” which is probably fake. If there is such a person as Greg Hoffman then he hasn’t worked in the recording industry for a day… Read more »

alex mcginness
alex mcginness

Hi, I bought the package and its great. Yes it all freeware plugs and it was worth the 40 bucks not to have to spend the time surfin the net looking for these plugs, and the time to find out that these plugs are available. It boils down to what your time is worth. I paid the cash and got the package as promised. It came on one DVD. No complaints…and not a scam.

Ronnie
Ronnie

It’s not about what your time is worth. Many freeware plugin developers do not allow their plugins to be distributed, much less commercially.

alex mcginness
alex mcginness

hes not selling the plugs. Hey I paid $40 as a finders fee to this guy and all these plugs are what he dug up for me. It was a great deal for me and for a few of the developers of these free plugs, as Ive since bought some of their paid for products. Again…the guy delivers exactly what he promises on a DVD that also has a catalog file with pics of the plugs on the disc and a description of each. Id pay $40 for that alone as I know how much time it takes to compile… Read more »

Ronnie
Ronnie

The plugins are distributed at a price, that’s commercial exploitation. Call it selling, call it a finders fee… Regardless, this collection includes many plugins that are not allowed to be distributed by anyone other than the developer. Also, nowhere on the website does it mention anything about these plugins being freely available online. Withholding that tiny bit of information is completely misleading. Now show me the catalog of included plugins and I will show you what copyright licenses Mr Hoffman broke.

ALEX MCGINNESS
ALEX MCGINNESS

Yes there were a couple of plugs on here that are warez….so what. If the owners of these bits of software are that P.O’d he would have been shut down ages ago. You may wanna believe that not saying that the plugs are free ware is misleading but all advertisers omit things from ads. All ads are misleading to some degree. Again, what was promised in the ad was delivered, and then some. Most people are P.O’d cause they didnt think of this first. So, bright boy, its been said that most opportunities are disguised as hard work. Heres an… Read more »

smash-k888
smash-k888

Finders fee?! Is that what it’s called when someone sells mass produced boot-leg movies & Cd’s- that they don’t have the rights to called? Selling this collection of plugins that were meant to be freeware or donation-ware without permission is no different than selling boot-legged or stolen goods on the streets! Only a newb would pay 4 something like this or risk their computer or personal info by buying & installing goods from a untrusted or unknown source. Rekkerd, KVR, & other sites announce the latest freeware & payware plugins on a daily basis. It doesn’t take any serious research… Read more »

ALEX MCGINNESS
ALEX MCGINNESS

You dont have the disk. End of that arguement. Theres a difference between bootleg movies that are not offered for free and free plugs. This guy did the work, compiled them, cataloged them, and then sold “that” work. I highly recomend this disk. ITS WORTH THE CASH. AND, think of the free advretising the developers are getting by getting their work ( which theyre giving away anyway,) by getting their stuff into the hands of more people. Now, not everybody knows about KVR. Not everybody has the time to go there and browse. This disk is a win for the… Read more »

Ronnie
Ronnie

Hey Alex, you’re continually ignoring the fact that they are breaking the law by ignoring or willfully breaching copyright. You even admit there is pirated software included…

However much you seem to enjoy and value the work, it’s just plain wrong and should not be promoted as something “good”.

I don’t think you’ll “get it” so I will be moderating your further comments.

ALEX MCGINNESS
ALEX MCGINNESS

Fine….Ill go shoot myself. Thanks for the morning smile.

Nekro Dean
Nekro Dean

It is a scam and as much as it seems You feel the need to prove to Yourself that it is not alex mcginness (I doubt that is even Your real name and to be honest with You: You’re sort, Whom I have experienced unfortunately before as have many others have done also, Ronnie whom is a top bloke, Keeps such a great resource for the audio community running aka Rekkerd.org and in this case is simply looking out for all and yet You have the gall to tell Him that He is WRONG!?! You are probably the scum behind… Read more »

alex mcginness
alex mcginness

Hey Andy, the VST Platinum package is a great deal. I bought it and am completely happy that I did as its exactly what the the guy promises in the ad. It took a little while to get here but it did arrive as promised. No help here to jail the guy. I even talked with him on the phone.

Cyforce / CFA-Sound
Cyforce / CFA-Sound

Thanks for the warning Ronnie!

Roby
Roby

There is still a completely different site with a similar name: [redacted]
In the main site material of the sample library, plug-ins and audio editors